2010 08 26 WS MinutesMINUTES OF THE REGULAR WORK SESSION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF BAYTOWN
August 26,2010
The City Council of the City of Baytown,Texas,met in a Regular Work Session on
Thursday,August 26,2010 at 4:30 P.M.in the Council Chamber of the Baytown City
Hall,2401 Market Street,Baytown,Texas with the following in attendance:
Brandon Capetillo Council Member
Lynn Caskey Council Member
David McCartney Council Member
Mercedes Renteria Council Member
Terry Sain Council Member
Scott Sheley Council Member
Stephen DonCarlos Mayor
Garrison C.Brumback City Manager
Bob Leiper Deputy City Manager
Kevin Troller Assistant City Manager
Ignacio Ramirez City Attorney
Leticia Garza City Clerk
Keith Dougherty Sergeant at Arms
Mayor DonCarlos convened the August 26,2010,City Council Regular Work Session
witha quorum present at 4:30 P.M.
1.DISCUSSION
Mayor DonCarlos called to move the agenda out of order and discuss item 1 b.first.
Council Member David McCartney abstained from item 1 .b.due to a possible conflict.
City Clerk,Leticia Garza stated that Council Member McCartney filed a Conflict of
Interest Questionnaire as it relates to item l.b.with the City Clerk's Office.
b.Amendments to Chapter 58,Manufactured Homes,Mobile Homes and Parks
-Planning and Development Services.
City Manager Garry Brumback presented the agenda item and stated that the City
consulted with local R.V.Park owners to help establish standards for the development
and operation of recreational vehicle parks and campgrounds.
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Mr.Brumback stated that the original ordinance presented to Council was for new R.V.
Parks going forward and grandfathered in existing parks;however,it was not clear and
caused some misunderstandings with the R.V.community and was therefore,returned to
staff for tweaking.
Deputy City Manager,Bob Leiper and Planning Director,Ms.Kelly Carpenter presented
to Council for their thoughts and guidance,an ordinance which resulted from the
collaboration between City staff and a group of local R.V.Park owners.Mr.Leiper
stated that it was his hope that all R.V.Park owners can support the proposed ordinance,
which would be brought back in September for Council's approval.
Mr.Leiper also stated that part of the problem with thecurrent Chapter 58of the Code of
Ordinance ("Code")is that there are two (2)different entities (Manufactured Home Parks
and R.V.Parks)that fall under two (2)separate sections of the Code,but are
intermingled;the new ordinance is intended to clearly separate the two.Currently there
are thirteen (13)licensed RV Parks within the City,of those,a number of them are not in
compliance with current regulations,such as spacing and density,which causes the
challenge in grandfathering;the keycomponents are:
•Density standard (currently 7-per undeveloped acre)with most parks currently at
15;
•Setbacks (currently 10'to the ROW,5'to property line regardless of the zone);
•Defined parking spaces (currently -very narrow,such as side by side adjacent to
space);
•Allowing parking areas expanded;
•Sidewalk requirements are more practical (currently -sidewalk connects to each
stand);
•Tenting (currently -can allow without sanitary facility);and
•Recreation areas
Mr.Leiper statedthat the new proposals are:
•Replacing density standard with spacing requirement of 10'between units;
•Setbacks are per zoning district;
•Tandem parking spaces (one behind the other);
•Sidewalks needed only if there is no other way to the office;
•Adding sanitary facility that allows tenting;and
•Recreation areas are better defined
The three (3)areas being proposed for grandfathering are existing parks defined asbeing:
1.Licensed on the date the revised ordinance is adopted;
2.Licensed RV Park in the middle of expansion on modifications for which permits
have already been issued;and
3.Licensed with an approved plate for future expansion (2 years)within life of plat
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Mr.Leiper indicated that theregulations on existing parks are to include standards for:
(1)drainage,(2)tenting,(3)lighting,(4)parking,(5)sidewalks,(6)water,(7)
wastewater,(8)electrical,(9)fire protection,(10)maintenance,(11)campground,(12)
cottage,and (12)cabins.Mr.Leiper also stated that regulations for new construction
parks included all that apply to existing parks,plus:(1)spacing,(2)recreation area,(3)
setbacks,(4)buffers,(5)driveway,(6)parking,and (7)washrooms.
Initial license fees are:
•25 spaces-$150
•25-50 spaces -$250
•51-75 spaces-$350
•76-100 spaces-$450
•Each in excess of 100 -$5
Annual license inspection and renewal fees are:
•25 spaces -$90
•25-50 spaces-$110
•51-100 spaces-$120
•101-150 spaces-$170
•Over 150-$200
Mr.Leiper stated that RV Parks that previously received a Manufactured Home/RV Park
License where a manufactured home is not permitted will now only receive an RV Park
License.
The Planning &Zoning Commission(P&Z)did not take action on this draft ordinance
last week as they wanted Council's feedback,in order to develop the final ordinance,and
resubmit it to P&Z at their September 01,2010,scheduled meeting;Council will then
consider the ordinance at their September 09,2010,meeting as there is a new RV Park
waiting to be developed.
Council Member Sain inquired if pop trailers were included in the same standard as the
tents;Mr.Leiper stated that those trailers would fall under the tent.
Council Member Renteria inquired if staff obtained information regarding these standards
from other cities;Ms.Carpenter stated that in comparison to other cities,the density and
all weather surfaces were the primary differences.
Council Member Capetillo inquired about the density and if 10'was the standard and the
challenges regarding grandfathering;Mr.Leiper stated that 10'tends to be the standard,
and the reason for setting the density is so that the park is not congested,which can be
difficult to set due to the configuration of the park.'
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Mr.Gordon,owner of Galveston Bay RV Park,stated that the grandfathering clause
needs to be clear cut,and using the all weather surface is an example.Mr.Gordon stated
that his concern was that the regulation being proposed in regards to grandfathering
existing parks holds the existing parks owners responsible for all rules and regulations
that apply now that did not apply before.Mr.Brumback stated thatin regards to all
weather surfacing the challenge is staff can not think of every conceivable circumstance
to set a standard so the language has to give room.Mr.Gordon falls under the existing
code,which is stricter than the proposed code and is unworkable.
Mr.Leiper stated that the items being discussed are referenced to thestandards in
Chapter 58.Mayor DonCarlos suggested that in regards to the all weather surface,when
applicants apply for permits that they be given a list of the approved surfaces.Mr.Leiper
stated that more examples can be listed in the code but to include the statement approved
surfaces,in case a new inventive comes up later.
Mr.John Bazzick,owner of the Baytown RV Park stated that his concern is that he has
been in operation for 7 1/2 years since 1980,and stated that he uses crushed concrete for
patching,limestone,and rock for surface and wants to know where that puts him under
the existing owner.Mr.Brumback stated that he should bring the park up to all weather
standards.Council Member Caskey inquired that if an existing park has a crushed
driveway,will the owner have to redo the driveway to the new standards once the new
ordinance is passed?Mr.Leiper stated that if the existing driveway develops muddy ruts
then they will have to fix it but it doesn't have to be what it was prior.
a.Downtown Plan Guidelines and Draft Downtown Overlay District -Planning
and Development Services.
Council Member McCartney stated that he owned the property at Texas Avenue and 204
W.Texas that he does not feel that the discussion will have any material affect on the
value and wanted to dispel a rumor that he used inside information to get a good real
estate deal,but he is only trying to help in the redevelopment of the area.
The overlay district can be considered and adopted now by using the existing overlay
process in the Zoning Code Section 130-626.The only downside is that council would
have to wait for the new code if they wanted to overlay on the new zoning category that
doesn't exist yet.Some of the implementation efforts so far are the Downtown Facade
Improvement Program,the Texas Avenue Streetscape Project which will be awarded in
September 2010,a new bar and restaurant has been built,and a temporary parking lot is
scheduled to be built across the street from the Dirty Bay Bar.
Planning Director,Kelly Carpenter presented the agenda item and stated that the Design
Guidelines could be implemented through an overlay zoning district and that City
Counciladopted the Downtown Plan,prepared by a consultant and extensively vetted in
the community,in November 2004.Ms.Carpenter stated that the district is not on the
street side but goes mid-block along Pearce,Gulf,and Main and close attention to this
may be needed as it breaks platted property and ownerships;a consultant prepared the
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Downtown Plan Development Guidelines in 2005 but these were not adopted by the City
Council,although they are cited as the direct guidance for the Downtown Facade
Improvement Program.Ms.Carpenter statedthat the plan describes the boundary of the
plan and gives guidance to public investment,regulatory strategies,and use limitations.
An example of public investments is the streetscape or a parking lot.Council Member
Renteria stated that his recollection was that more private investments were discussed.
Mr.Brumback stated that the hope is to public invest so that the private investors will
have incentives to invest.
Ms.Carpenter stated that the goals of the plan are to create:well-defined neighborhoods,
great commercial and residential streets,a vibrant walkable mixed-use downtown district,
a series of Business and Redevelopment Incentive Programs,and develop private/public
partnerships to implement the master plan.Council Member Capetillo inquired of the
historical buildings downtown.During the discussion the historical buildings downtown
were not definitely identified.Council Member Renteria inquired if it is advantageous to
make a historical structure more sound than to tear it down and rebuild it and who makes
the decision on what buildings are considered historical.Mr.Brumback stated that it is
routinely more expensive to rehabilitate a historical structure than it is to start over which
is one of reasons of being fairly selective when choosing buildings as historical
significant.Ms.Carpenter stated that experts such asthe State Historic Preservation
Officer (SHIPO),the Historic Preservation Society of Houston and a structural engineer
arecalled in when considering a building historical.
Council Member McCartney inquired if balconies were included in the overhang and if
the pole support can be out in the front.Ms.Carpenter stated that the balcony is included
in the overhang,but it would be up to the owner to decide if the balcony would be
occupied or for decorations and suggested discussion on the license language for the
poles in the right of way.
Ms.Carpenter stated that some issues with the overlay that need to be addressed include:
uses to be allowed and prohibited downtown;the area to be covered by a downtown
overlay zoning district;and the design standards.
Council Member Capetillo inquired if the standards can be broken down to specifically
reflect the overlay district but not the other connecting street.Ms.Carpenter stated that it
can be done,but recommends not being too specific,that it damages the market.
Mr.Brumback suggested another work session regarding this item.
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2.ADJOURN
Mayor DonCarlos adjourned the August 26,2010,City Council Regular Work Session at
6:14 P.M.
Leticia Gar&gpty
City of Baytown